{"id":5504,"date":"2017-07-20T08:20:36","date_gmt":"2017-07-20T08:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sceptical.scot\/staging\/?p=5504"},"modified":"2025-12-27T00:11:19","modified_gmt":"2025-12-27T00:11:19","slug":"can-scotland-and-wales-block-the-eu-repeal-bill","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sceptical.scot\/staging\/2017\/07\/can-scotland-and-wales-block-the-eu-repeal-bill\/","title":{"rendered":"Can Scotland and Wales block the EU repeal bill?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Nicola Sturgeon, first minister of Scotland, and Carwyn Jones, first minister of Wales, in a<\/strong><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/gov.wales\/newsroom\/firstminister\/2017\/170713-joint-statement-from-first-ministers-of-wales-and-scotland\/?lang=en\">joint statement<\/a><\/strong><strong>&nbsp;<\/strong><strong>published in reaction to the publication of the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill on July 13, formerly known as the \u201cGreat Repeal Bill,\u201d said:<br>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>The Scottish and Welsh governments cannot recommend that legislative consent is given to the bill as it currently stands.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Despite Scottish and Welsh dismay at the draft text of the repeal bill, as a matter of law, the Scottish Parliament and National Assembly for Wales cannot block the passage of the bill by withholding their consent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The bill&nbsp;<a href=\"httpss:\/\/theconversation.com\/law-expert-where-the-brexit-battles-over-the-repeal-bill-will-be-fought-in-parliament-80980\">would allow<\/a>&nbsp;Westminster to convert EU law into UK domestic law in the UK. But the devolution legislation is unambiguous: the conferral of law making powers to Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast \u201cdoes not affect\u201d the power of the parliament of the UK to make laws for&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/1998\/46\/section\/28\">Scotland<\/a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/2006\/32\/section\/107\">Wales<\/a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/1998\/47\/section\/5\">Northern Ireland<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So even if one of the devolved legislatures were to withhold consent, the Westminster parliament could still enact the bill.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The question of the devolved legislatures\u2019 consent arises because of the \u201cSewel convention\u201d \u2013 a political rather than a legal rule \u2013 whereby the UK parliament will not normally legislate with regard to devolved matters without the consent of the devolved legislatures. The convention takes its name from Lord Sewel, former minister of state in the Scottish Office, who \u201cannounced\u201d the convention&nbsp;<a href=\"httpss:\/\/publications.parliament.uk\/pa\/ld199798\/ldhansrd\/vo980721\/text\/80721-20.htm#80721-20_spnew2\">during the parliamentary debates<\/a>&nbsp;on the Scotland Bill in 1998.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After Scotland\u2019s 2014 independence referendum, the Sewel convention was put on a statutory footing in&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/2016\/11\/section\/2\">Scotland<\/a>&nbsp;and later&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/2017\/4\/section\/2\/enacted\">Wales<\/a>. It has not been put on a statutory footing in Northern Ireland.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the case&nbsp;<a href=\"httpss:\/\/theconversation.com\/what-is-at-stake-in-the-supreme-courts-brexit-ruling-70928\">brought by Gina Miller<\/a>&nbsp;in 2016 over whether the government or parliament had the power to trigger Article 50 to begin the UK\u2019s withdrawal from the EU, the UK Supreme Court&nbsp;<a href=\"httpss:\/\/www.supremecourt.uk\/cases\/docs\/uksc-2016-0196-judgment.pdf\">held<\/a>&nbsp;that this statutory recognition did not signify any change in the convention\u2019s status. Its application is therefore a matter for the political process rather than the courts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The UK government accepts that the Sewel convention applies to the repeal bill. In all such cases, the convention has been scrupulously observed by successive UK governments since devolution almost 20 years ago. Although the UK government could in theory disregard it by pushing through the bill without Scottish and Welsh legislative consent, it is unlikely to want to do so as it would lay itself open to the charge of acting unconstitutionally. In Scotland, it would also risk strengthening the case for a second independence referendum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The parliamentary arithmetic in any event points in the same direction. To be able to proceed without the devolved legislatures\u2019 consent, the UK government would need to be confident of a majority in the House of Commons, which cannot currently be guaranteed. The search will therefore be on in the coming weeks for some form of agreement whereby their consent can be secured.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Verdict<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The devolved legislatures cannot block the bill but the need for their consent means that they have a considerable degree of leverage \u2013 much more so than if Theresa May had secured a landslide majority in the June election. It is likely the devolved nations will seek to exploit this leverage to the full.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Review<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Richard Wyn Jones, Professor of Welsh Politics and Director, Wales Governance Centre, University of Cardiff<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are few phrases more over-worked by journalists and commentators than \u201cconstitutional crisis\u201d. Nonetheless, the now very real possibility that the devolved legislatures in Cardiff and Edinburgh will refuse to give their consent to the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/services.parliament.uk\/bills\/2017-19\/europeanunionwithdrawal.html\">European Union (Withdrawal) Bill<\/a>&nbsp;\u2013 the legislation formerly known as the Great Repeal Bill \u2013 raises the spectre of a clash between levels of government that may actually deserve the label. As a matter of law, the author is correct that the UK government can simply ignore the Scottish Parliament and National Assembly for Wales. But, as the piece suggests, the political reality is that doing so would further weaken May\u2019s already enfeebled administration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is compromise possible? There is genuine annoyance in both Edinburgh and Cardiff at the way they believe the UK government has failed to engage with their proposals on Brexit in a serious manner. But it\u2019s about more than lack of engagement. Central government, on the one hand, and the devolved governments, on the other, seem to have fundamentally different understandings of what devolution means. It\u2019s hard to imagine how clever re-drafting of the bill alone can bridge the gap between them. With the bill set to be followed by further Brexit-related legislation that will whittle away at the powers of the devolved nations, we are entering a very difficult \u2013 and yes, crisis-ridden \u2013 period for the state\u2019s territorial constitution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>First published by <a href=\"https:\/\/&lt;h1&gt;Fact Check: can Wales and Scotland block the Brexit repeal bill?&lt;\/h1&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;httpss:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/alan-page-390412&quot;&gt;Alan Page&lt;\/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-dundee-955&quot;&gt;University of Dundee&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/span&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;The Scottish and Welsh governments cannot recommend that legislative consent is given to the bill as it currently stands.&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;\/blockquote&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Nicola Sturgeon, first minister of Scotland and Carwyn Jones, first minister of Wales, in a &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/gov.wales\/newsroom\/firstminister\/2017\/170713-joint-statement-from-first-ministers-of-wales-and-scotland\/?lang=en&quot;&gt;joint statement&lt;\/a&gt; published in reaction to the publication of the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill on July 13, formerly known as the \u201cGreat Repeal Bill\u201d.&lt;\/strong&gt; &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Despite Scottish and Welsh dismay at the draft text of the repeal bill, as a matter of law, the Scottish Parliament and National Assembly for Wales cannot block the passage of the bill by withholding their consent. &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The bill &lt;a href=&quot;httpss:\/\/theconversation.com\/law-expert-where-the-brexit-battles-over-the-repeal-bill-will-be-fought-in-parliament-80980&quot;&gt;would allow&lt;\/a&gt; Westminster to convert EU law into UK domestic law in the UK. But the devolution legislation is unambiguous: the conferral of law making powers to Edinburgh, Cardiff and Belfast \u201cdoes not affect\u201d the power of the parliament of the UK to make laws for &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/1998\/46\/section\/28&quot;&gt;Scotland&lt;\/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/2006\/32\/section\/107&quot;&gt;Wales&lt;\/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/1998\/47\/section\/5&quot;&gt;Northern Ireland&lt;\/a&gt;. &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;So even if one of the devolved legislatures were to withhold consent, the Westminster parliament could still enact the bill.&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The question of the devolved legislatures\u2019 consent arises because of the \u201cSewel convention\u201d \u2013 a political rather than a legal rule \u2013 whereby the UK parliament will not normally legislate with regard to devolved matters without the consent of the devolved legislatures. The convention takes its name from Lord Sewel, former minister of state in the Scottish Office, who \u201cannounced\u201d the convention &lt;a href=&quot;httpss:\/\/publications.parliament.uk\/pa\/ld199798\/ldhansrd\/vo980721\/text\/80721-20.htm#80721-20_spnew2&quot;&gt;during the parliamentary debates&lt;\/a&gt; on the Scotland Bill in 1998.&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;After Scotland\u2019s 2014 independence referendum, the Sewel convention was put on a statutory footing in &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/2016\/11\/section\/2&quot;&gt;Scotland&lt;\/a&gt; and later &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.legislation.gov.uk\/ukpga\/2017\/4\/section\/2\/enacted&quot;&gt;Wales&lt;\/a&gt;. It has not been put on a statutory footing in Northern Ireland. &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In the case &lt;a href=&quot;httpss:\/\/theconversation.com\/what-is-at-stake-in-the-supreme-courts-brexit-ruling-70928&quot;&gt;brought by Gina Miller&lt;\/a&gt; in 2016 over whether the government or parliament had the power to trigger Article 50 to begin the UK\u2019s withdrawal from the EU, the UK Supreme Court &lt;a href=&quot;httpss:\/\/www.supremecourt.uk\/cases\/docs\/uksc-2016-0196-judgment.pdf&quot;&gt;held&lt;\/a&gt; that this statutory recognition did not signify any change in the convention\u2019s status. Its application is therefore a matter for the political process rather than the courts.&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The UK government accepts that the Sewel convention applies to the repeal bill. In all such cases, the convention has been scrupulously observed by successive UK governments since devolution almost 20 years ago. Although the UK government could in theory disregard it by pushing through the bill without Scottish and Welsh legislative consent, it is unlikely to want to do so as it would lay itself open to the charge of acting unconstitutionally. In Scotland, it would also risk strengthening the case for a second independence referendum. &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The parliamentary arithmetic in any event points in the same direction. To be able to proceed without the devolved legislatures\u2019 consent, the UK government would need to be confident of a majority in the House of Commons, which cannot currently be guaranteed. The search will therefore be on in the coming weeks for some form of agreement whereby their consent can be secured. &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;Verdict&lt;\/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;The devolved legislatures cannot block the bill but the need for their consent means that they have a considerable degree of leverage \u2013 much more so than if Theresa May had secured a landslide majority in the June election. It is likely the devolved nations will seek to exploit this leverage to the full. &lt;\/p&gt; &lt;h2&gt;Review&lt;\/h2&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Richard Wyn Jones, Professor of Welsh Politics and Director, Wales Governance Centre, University of Cardiff&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;There are few phrases more over-worked by journalists and commentators than \u201cconstitutional crisis\u201d. Nonetheless, the now very real possibility that the devolved legislatures in Cardiff and Edinburgh will refuse to give their consent to the &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/services.parliament.uk\/bills\/2017-19\/europeanunionwithdrawal.html&quot;&gt;European Union (Withdrawal) Bill&lt;\/a&gt; \u2013 the legislation formerly known as the Great Repeal Bill \u2013 raises the spectre of a clash between levels of government that may actually deserve the label. As a matter of law, the author is correct that the UK government can simply ignore the Scottish Parliament and National Assembly for Wales. But as the piece suggests, the political reality is that doing so would further weaken May\u2019s already enfeebled administration.&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Is compromise possible? There is genuine annoyance in both Edinburgh and Cardiff at the way they believe the UK government has failed to engage with their proposals on Brexit in a serious manner. But it\u2019s about more than lack of engagement. Central government, on the one hand, and the devolved governments, on the other, seem to have fundamentally different understandings of what devolution means. It\u2019s hard to imagine how clever re-drafting of the bill alone can bridge the gap between them. With the bill set to be followed by further Brexit-related legislation that will whittle away at the powers of the devolved nations, we are entering a very difficult \u2013 and yes, crisis-ridden \u2013 period for the state\u2019s territorial constitution.&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;hr&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;httpss:\/\/counter.theconversation.edu.au\/content\/81041\/count.gif?distributor=republish-lightbox-basic&quot; alt=&quot;The Conversation&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; \/&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Conversation is checking claims made by public figures and prominent in public debates. Statements are checked by an academic with expertise in the area. A second academic expert then reviews an anonymous copy of the article. Please get in touch if you spot a claim you would like us to check by emailing us at uk-factcheck@theconversation.com. Please include the statement you would like us to check, the date it was made, and a link if possible.&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;httpss:\/\/theconversation.com\/profiles\/alan-page-390412&quot;&gt;Alan Page&lt;\/a&gt;, Professor of Public Law, &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/theconversation.com\/institutions\/university-of-dundee-955&quot;&gt;University of Dundee&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;La &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/theconversation.com\/fact-check-can-wales-and-scotland-block-the-brexit-repeal-bill-81041&quot;&gt;version originale&lt;\/a&gt; de cet article a \u00e9t\u00e9 publi\u00e9e sur &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/theconversation.com&quot;&gt;The Conversation&lt;\/a&gt;.&lt;\/p&gt;\">The Conversation<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The devolved legislatures cannot block the bill but the need for their consent means that they have a considerable degree of leverage \u2013 much more so than if Theresa May had secured a landslide majority in the June election. 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